purpose or means. See Duke Power Co. v. Carolina Environmental Study Group, Inc., 438 U.S. 59, 82-84, 98 S.Ct. 2620, 2635-37, 57 L.Ed.2d 595 (1978); Miller v. City of Chicago, 774 F.2d 188 (7th Cir.1985). On the basis of the record before us, we cannot draw any conclusions as to the asserted irrationality or arbitrariness of Judge Watt’s order. The district court’s memorandum and order makes no disposition of this claim, and it will therefore remain open on remand. We note, however, that the presumption of rationality will not easily be overcome. See Duke Power, 438 U.S. at 82-84, 98 S.Ct. at 2635-37.
3. Eighth Amendment
Coleman’s argument that the temporary deprivation of his car constitutes an excessive fine in violation of the Eighth Amendment merits little discussion. The term “fine” denotes a payment extracted by the government and payable to the government. See Browning-Ferris Indus. v. Kelco Disposal Inc., 492 U.S. 257, 109 S.Ct. 2909, 106 L.Ed.2d 219 (1989). A deprivation by the government must be intended to be permanent to constitute a fine, as in the ease of civil forfeitures. See, e.g., Austin v. United States, — U.S. -, 113 S.Ct. 2801, 125 L.Ed.2d 488 (1993) (Excessive Fines Clause may limit the amount of in rem civil forfeitures sought by the government); Alexander v. United States, — U.S. -, 113 S.Ct. 2766, 125 L.Ed.2d 441 (1993) (Excessive Fines Clause applies to forfeiture of assets under RICO). Because we agree that the temporary impoundment of a vehicle cannot fairly be considered a fine, we affirm the district court’s dismissal of Coleman’s Eighth Amendment claim.
4. Fourth Amendment
Coleman asserts that the impoundment of his car constituted an unreasonable seizure in violation of the Fourth Amendment. The reasonableness standard of the Fourth Amendment applies to any seizure by the government in any context. See Soldal v. Cook County, — U.S. -, - - -, 113 S.Ct. 538, 543-48, 121 L.Ed.2d 450 (1992) (removal of a mobile home); United States v. Cardona-Sandoval, 6 F.3d 15, 21-23 (1st Cir.1993) (commandeering of an ocean vessel); Conner v. City of Santa Ana, 897 F.2d 1487, 1490-92 (9th Cir.1989), cert. denied, 498 U.S. 816, 111 S.Ct. 59, 112 L.Ed.2d 34 (1990) (seizure of junked cars). A property seizure occurs when the government’s intrusion “meaningfully interferes” with an individual’s possessory interest. U.S. v. Jacobsen, 466 U.S. 109, 120, 104 S.Ct. 1652, 1660, 80 L.Ed.2d 85 (1984).
The Supreme Court recently reemphasized that “ ‘reasonableness is still the ultimate standard’ under the Fourth Amendment....” Soldal v. Cook County, — U.S. -, -, 113 S.Ct. 538, 549, 121 L.Ed.2d 450, 465 (1992) (quoting Camara v. Municipal Court of San Francisco, 387 U.S. 523, 539, 87 S.Ct. 1727, 1736, 18 L.Ed.2d 930 (1967)). The Soldal decision articulated a substantial barrier to a finding of unreasonableness when the officers seizing property are acting pursuant to a court order:
[T]he reasonableness determination will reflect a “careful balancing of governmental and private interests.” [Citation omitted]. Assuming for example that the officers were acting pursuant to a court order, as in Specht v. Jensen, 832 F.2d 1516 (CA10 1987), or Fuentes v. Shevin, 407 U.S. 67, 32 L.Ed.2d 556, 92 S.Ct. 1983 (1972), and as often would be the case, a showing of unreasonableness on these facts would be a laborious task indeed.
Id., — U.S. at -, 113 S.Ct. at 549, at 465.
Coleman has made no such laborious showing. Coleman suggests that any seizure made pursuant to the order is unreasonable because the order is unconstitutionally over-broad and because the order was issued without legislative authority. We do not agree. We have identified one federal constitutional infirmity: the order’s failure to provide for prompt hearings. For purposes of the federal Constitution, that defect does not render all seizures made pursuant to the order automatically unreasonable.
Because the Little Rock Police Department acted pursuant to Judge Watt’s general order, we hold that its seizure of Coleman’s car was not unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment.