SETH, Circuit Judge.
Defendant William Troy Bullock, a/k/a Larry Allen Tate, and two co-defendants were charged in a 14-count indictment stemming from their operation of an amphetamine manufacturing laboratory in Oklahoma, and distribution of the drug. In this appeal, Bullock challenges his convictions on Counts 2 and 9 of the indictment: Count 2 charged a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371, alleging that defendants conspired to, inter alia, “knowingly and intentionally use or carry firearms in the commission of [various] drug trafficking crimes” in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 924(c); Count 9 charged a violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 924(c) for knowingly using or carrying firearms unlawfully “during the commission of a drug trafficking [crime].” For the reasons that follow, we affirm defendant’s convictions.
The defendant Bullock argues that the language of Counts 2 and 9 of the indictment is fatally deficient in that it does not precisely use the language of § 924(c), i.e., the use or carrying of firearms was during “and in relation to” a drug trafficking crime. Bullock submits the addition of the “during and in relation to” language by the 1984 amendment to § 924(c) established a new element necessary for conviction and that because this exact language was not a part of Counts 2 and 9, the indictment is fatally deficient in stating an offense.
We note that this challenge to the adequacy of the indictment is made for the first time on appeal, but this court has held “that the failure of an indictment to state an offense is a fatal defect that may be raised at any time. Nonetheless, the countervailing interest in judicial efficiency requires that tardily-challenged indictments be construed liberally in favor of validity.” United States v. Freeman, 813 F.2d 303, 304 (10th Cir.1987) (citations omitted). In that case we also stated that an indictment
“must be sufficient to apprise the accused of the nature of the offense so that he may adequately prepare his defense. Following conviction, the record of the case must be sufficient so as to enable the accused to subsequently avail himself of the form of jeopardy for future prosecution for the same offense.”
Id. at 304-305.
Having reviewed the record and the language of the indictment at issue in light of the standards set out in Freeman, the indictment here, which charged defendants with using or carrying firearms “in the commission of the drug trafficking crimes listed” and with assembling the collection of weapons to protect and defend the drug laboratory, was sufficiently specific and descriptive. This is notwithstanding that the indictment did not quote the precise language used in § 924(c); that is, the use of firearms during “and in relation to” the drug trafficking crime. An indictment, of course, need not quote the statutory language to be legally sufficient. Hamling v. United States, 418 U.S. 87, 94 S.Ct. 2887, 41 L.Ed.2d 590 (1974). See the admonition to apply “practical considerations” in United States v. Phillips, 869 F.2d 1361 (10th Cir.1988). See also United States v. Staggs, 881 F.2d 1527 (10th Cir.1989).
As To Count 2
In any event, as mentioned, the indictment in its preliminary portion used the following language:
“A. Objects of the Conspiracy
“To knowingly and intentionally use or carry firearms in the commission of the drug trafficking crimes listed below, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 924(c);....”
The charge was thus to use or carry a firearm in the commission of the crime charged — conspiracy to manufacture and possess amphetamine. This firearms use is not directed to a substantive offense but, again, a conspiracy. This conspiracy is further described in the indictment, Count 2, as follows: