be weighed the substantial interest of the public and of defendants as a group, in the full and free debate in the jury room.”
Initially, a jury verdict has presumptive validity and will not be set aside except upon a showing of essential unfairness of constitutional dimension. United States v. Provenzano, 240 F.Supp. 393 (D.N.J.1965). Beyond this, strict limitations are placed on the scope of impeaching verdicts and the manner in which they may be impeached. The rule enunciated in the McDonald case, supra, still represents the great weight of authority as to impeachment by the testimony or affidavits of the jurors. Even the most liberal courts will not allow jurors to impeach their verdict on the basis of matters which inhere in the verdict itself, e. g., the ground of their verdict, a misunderstanding of the instructions or the law or a misapprehension of the evidence. Thus, in State v. Kociolek, 20 N.J. 92, 118 A.2d 812, 58 A.L.R.2d 545, 552 (1955), the Court said:
“The better reasoned decisions support the exclusion of jurors’ testimony as to their mental processes, not upon the discredited basis of the policies against self-stultification and avoidance of jury tampering, perjury or other fraudulent practices, but upon the sounder ground that, being personal to each juror, the working of the mind of any of them cannot be subjected to the test of other testimony, and therefore that such testimony should not be received to overthrow the verdict to which all assented.”
The factual allegations presented in this motion clearly create the type of situation to which the Koeiolek court referred. The alleged statement made by the jurors is extremely ambiguous, to say the least. The statement is clearly reconcilable with a verdict of guilty on the conspiracy count; a discrepancy arises only if the “associations” to which the jurors referred are assumed to be associations in some activity other than the criminal activity out of which the indictments grew.
Numerous cases, in addition to those already cited, rule that the pursuit and protection of constitutional rights are not well served by diversion into this uncertain and fruitless field. See Butler v. United States, 317 F.2d 249, 262 (8 Cir. 1963); Rees v. Peyton, 341 F.2d 859 (4 Cir. 1965); Bates v. Dickson, 226 F.Supp. 983 (N.D.Calif.1964); United States v. Furlong, 194 F.2d 1 (7 Cir. 1952), cert. den. 343 U.S. 950, 72 S.Ct. 1042, 96 L.Ed. 1352. Accordingly, we find that petitioner’s motion fails to raise any substantial issue as to the fundamental fairness of his trial and an order will be entered denying his motion.