deciding this ultimate question.” (Citation omitted.) Id., 460 U.S. at 716, 103 S.Ct. at 1482, 75 L.Ed.2d at 411. Thus, it is clearly erroneous to now “focus[ ] on the question of prima facie case rather than directly on the question of discrimination.” Id., 460 U.S. at 717, 103 S.Ct. at 1483, 75 L.Ed.2d at 411.
On the state of the record, the court should have proceeded directly to the disputed question of whether the plaintiffs presented sufficient evidence to support the jury’s finding that Byrnes and Otto were the victims of age discrimination, just as we do when deciding other ultimate questions of fact. There is no reason to allow this case to become mired in a discussion of the elements or alternative methods of proving a prima facie case.
Also, in evaluating the sufficiency of plaintiffs’ evidence, it is essential to understand that in proving discrimination the plaintiff is not required to produce any certain kind of evidence and, in particular, may prove discrimination by circumstantial evidence. The plaintiff “is not limited to presenting evidence of a certain type.” Patterson v. McLean Credit Union (1989), 491 U.S. 164, 187, 109 S.Ct. 2363, 2378, 105 L.Ed.2d 132, 157. The high court has clearly and specifically explained:
“As in any lawsuit, the plaintiff may prove his case by direct or circumstantial evidence. The trier of fact should consider all the evidence, giving it whatever weight and credence it deserves. Thus, we agree with the Court of Appeals that the District Court should not have required Aikens to submit direct evidence of discriminatory intent. See [International Brotherhood of] Teamsters v. United States, 431 U.S. 324, 358, n. 44 [97 S.Ct. 1843, 1866, 52 L.Ed.2d 396, 429] (1977) (‘[T]he McDonnell Douglas formula does not require direct proof of discrimination.’).” Aikens, supra, 460 U.S. at 714, 103 S.Ct. at 1481, 75 L.Ed.2d at 409, fn. 3.
Thus, it would also be erroneous to require plaintiffs “to submit direct evidence of discriminatory intent” in order to prevail. Id., 460 U.S. at 717, 103 S.Ct. at 1483, 75 L.Ed.2d at 411.
A proper analysis, therefore, should reflect that the various ageist remarks by Lawrence McLernon constitute circumstantial evidence (in that they require an inference from the statements proved to the conclusion intended) that a discriminatory motive played a part in the challenged employment decisions. This kind of evidence may support a finding of discrimination irrespective of the McDonnell Douglas formula for establishing a prima facie case. Id., 460 U.S. at 713-714, 103 S.Ct. at 1481, 75 L.Ed.2d at 409, fn. 2 and 3. The only question, if indeed there is one, is whether McLernon’s statements were vague, ambiguous or isolated. See Cooley v. Carmike Cinemas, Inc. (C.A.6, 1994), 25 F.3d 1325, 1331; Phelps v. Yale Security, Inc. (C.A.6, 1993), 986 F.2d 1020, 1025. Certainly, they were not isolated. They were repeated, ongoing for at least five years, and made by á